Cindy Woodhouse Nepinak, Paul Deegan, Dana Stephenson and Sylvia Martin-Laforge made statements and, with Bram Lerat and Josh Gladstone, answered questions.

At 9:14 a.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 9:20 a.m., the meeting resumed.

Firdaus J. Kharas, Kate Higgins, Aaron Vansintjan and Barbara Barrett made statements and answered questions.

At 10:02 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 115(5), it was agreed that the committee continue to sit.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 10:15 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 115(5), the meeting was suspended.

At 10:55 a.m., the meeting resumed.

Alain Strati, Kyle Irving O. M., Natan Obed, Victoria Pruden and Sean Longboat made statements and answered questions.

At 11:43 a.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 11:49 a.m., the meeting resumed.

Stephen Beatty, Carla Vicente and Renaud Gignac made statements and answered questions.

Jacob Mantle moved, —

That, given that the Privacy Commissioner of Canada is a trusted and respected defender of the privacy rights of Canadians, and that Liberal members of the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security denied the Commissioner an opportunity to protect those rights by appearing as a witness during clause-by-clause consideration of the Prime Minister’s overreaching surveillance law, Bill C-22, An Act respecting lawful access:

1. it be ordered that the Standing Committee on Finance stand in solidarity with Canadians who are concerned about threats to their privacy, and immediately suspend clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-30, An Act to implement certain provisions of the spring economic update tabled in Parliament on April 28, 2026, until such time as the Privacy Commissioner of Canada is permitted to participate in the proceedings on Bill C-22;
2. additional witness testimony is permitted to be received; and
3. the clerk of the Standing Committee on Finance be instructed to inform the clerk of the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security of the committee’s decision.

Debate arose thereon.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled the motion inadmissible as it exceeded the mandate of the committee.

Whereupon, Jacob Mantle appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was sustained on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Viviane Lapointe, Carlos Leitão, Kent MacDonald, Danielle Martin, Jake Sawatzky, Ryan Turnbull — 6;

NAYS: Jean-Denis Garon, Pat Kelly, Philip Lawrence, Eric Lefebvre, Jacob Mantle — 5.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.