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Minutes of Proceedings

Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security (SECU)

45th Parliament, 1st Session

Meeting 43

Thursday, June 11, 2026, 3:54 p.m. to 7:14 p.m.

Room 415, Wellington Building, 197 Sparks Street

Televised

Presiding

Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos, Chair (Liberal)

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Members of the Committee present

Liberal

Conservative

Bloc Québécois

Claude DeBellefeuille

Acting Members present

• Kelly Block for Rhonda Kirkland (Conservative)

• Connie Cody for Rhonda Kirkland (Conservative)

• Tamara Kronis for Frank Caputo (Conservative)

• Andrew Lawton for Chak Au (Conservative)

• Jacob Mantle for Chak Au (Conservative)

• Gabriel Ste-Marie for Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc Québécois)

Other Members present

• Garnett Genuis (Conservative)

• Jenny Kwan (NDP)

• Jacob Mantle (Conservative)

In attendance

House of Commons

• Wassim Bouanani, Procedural Clerk

• Alexie Labelle, Legislative Clerk

• Michelle Legault, Legislative Clerk

Library of Parliament

• Sabrina Charland, Analyst

• Alexsandra Ferland, Analyst

Bill C-22, An Act respecting lawful access

Witnesses

Canadian Security Intelligence Service

• Ramzi Nashef, Director General, Policy, Planning and Accountability

• Juanita M., Senior Policy Advisor, Policy, Planning and Accountability

Department of Justice

• Kimberly Gibner, Deputy Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy Sector

• Normand Wong, Acting General Counsel, Policy Sector

Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

• Richard Bilodeau, Acting Senior Assistant Deputy Minister

• Shannon Hiegel, Director General, National Security Policy Directorate

• Fenton Ho, Director, Intelligence Policy

Royal Canadian Mounted Police

• C/Supt Richard Burchill, Director General, Technical Investigation Services

• Sgt Aaron Gilkes, Acting Officer-in-Charge, RCMP Lawful Access

Pursuant to the order of reference of the House of Monday, April 20, 2026, and the motion adopted by the committee on Thursday, April 30, 2026, the committee resumed its study of Bill C-22, An Act respecting lawful access.

The witnesses answered questions.

The committee resumed its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.

The committee resumed clause-by-clause consideration on Clause 6 of the Bill.

The committee resumed consideration of the subamendment of Anthony Housefather, — That the amendment be amended by

(a) substituting, for the reference “replacing lines 21 to 23” in the opening portion, the reference “replacing lines 21 to 24”;

(b) substituting the following for the text proposed by the motion:

produce a document containing the subscriber information referred to in any of paragraphs (a) to (c) of the definition subscriber information in section 487.011

(a) that is specified by the justice or judge in the order;

(b) that relates to any information, including transmission data, that is specified in the order; and

The debate continued.

At 4:17 p.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 5:08 p.m., the meeting resumed.

The committee resumed consideration of the subamendment of Anthony Housefather, — That the amendment be amended by

(a) substituting, for the reference “replacing lines 21 to 23” in the opening portion, the reference “replacing lines 21 to 24”;

(b) substituting the following for the text proposed by the motion:

produce a document containing the subscriber information referred to in any of paragraphs (a) to (c) of the definition subscriber information in section 487.011

(a) that is specified by the justice or judge in the order;

(b) that relates to any information, including transmission data, that is specified in the order; and

The debate continued.

At 6:48 p.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 7:02 p.m., the meeting resumed.

The committee resumed consideration of the subamendment of Anthony Housefather, — That the amendment be amended by

(a) substituting, for the reference “replacing lines 21 to 23” in the opening portion, the reference “replacing lines 21 to 24”;

(b) substituting the following for the text proposed by the motion:

produce a document containing the subscriber information referred to in any of paragraphs (a) to (c) of the definition subscriber information in section 487.011

(a) that is specified by the justice or judge in the order;

(b) that relates to any information, including transmission data, that is specified in the order; and

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Anthony Housefather and it was agreed to.

The committee resumed consideration of the amendment of Claude DeBellefeuille, as amended, — That Bill C-22, in Clause 6, be amended by replacing lines 21 to 23 on page 7 with the following:

“produce a document containing the subscriber information referred to in any of paragraphs (a) to (c) of the definition subscriber information in section 487.011

(a) that is specified by the justice or judge in the order;

(b) that relates to any information, including transmission data, that is specified in the order; and

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Claude DeBellefeuille, as amended, and it was agreed to.

At 7:14 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Paul Cardegna

Clerk of the committee