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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 111
Thursday, April 11, 2024, 11:12 a.m. to 12:55 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
John Brassard, Chair (Conservative)

• Michael Cooper for Damien C. Kurek (Conservative)
• Ali Ehsassi for Iqra Khalid (Liberal)
• Mark Gerretsen for Iqra Khalid (Liberal)
• Sherry Romanado for Pam Damoff (Liberal)
• Marc G. Serré for Pam Damoff (Liberal)
Library of Parliament
• Alexandra Savoie, Analyst
• Maxime-Olivier Thibodeau, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Michael Cooper moved, — That, given that,

(i) media reporting states that a Liberal Party member informed the Liberal candidate for Don Valley North that he was the subject of a CSIS investigation in 2019,

(ii) this information could only be obtained from classified national security briefings, with the leak undermining the work of Canada’s intelligence agency and violating of Canada’s national security laws,

(iii) since only select individuals in the Liberal government and Liberal Party would have received this classified information from CSIS, and would have been responsible for sharing this information,

the committee call the following witnesses:

  • National Director of Liberal Party, Liberal Designate for SITE taskforce, Azam Ishmael
  • Liberal Designate for SITE taskforce, Braeden Caley
  • Liberal Designate for SITE taskforce, Mathieu Lafrance
  • Liberal Campaign Director, Jeremy Broadhurst
  • Former Chief of Staff to the Minister of Public Safety, Marci Surkes
  • Former Chief of Staff to the Minister of Public Safety, Zita Astravas
  • Former Chief of Staff to the Minister of Democratic Institutions, Rob Jamieson
  • Deputy Chief of Staff to the Prime Minister, Brian Clow
  • Director of CSIS, David Vigneault
  • Commissioner of the RCMP, Michael Duheme
  • National Security and Intelligence Advisor to the Prime Minister, Nathalie Drouin
  • Other witnesses deemed relevant by the committee

Debate arose thereon.

At 11:28 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:44 a.m., the sitting resumed.

The debate continued.

On motion of Larry Brock, it was agreed, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “Liberal Designate for SITE taskforce, Mathieu Lafrance” with the words “Senior Liberal staffer who received CSIS briefing, Matthew Lafrance”.

Amendment

Michael Barrett moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “the committee call the following witnesses:” with the following “the Chair be directed to write to the Chair of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs to suggest that the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs consider this matter, including the following witnesses:”.

Debate arose thereon.

At 12:33 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:42 p.m., the sitting resumed.

The question was put on the amendment and the result of the vote was announced:

YEAS: Michael Barrett, Larry Brock, Michael Cooper, Matthew Green, René Villemure — 5;

NAYS: Parm Bains, Darren Fisher, Mark Gerretsen, Anthony Housefather, Sherry Romanado — 5.

Whereupon, the Chair voted in the affirmative.

Accordingly, the amendment was agreed to.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and the result of the vote was announced:

YEAS: Michael Barrett, Larry Brock, Michael Cooper, Matthew Green, René Villemure — 5;

NAYS: Parm Bains, Darren Fisher, Mark Gerretsen, Anthony Housefather, Sherry Romanado — 5.

Whereupon, the Chair voted in the affirmative.

Accordingly, the motion was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, given that,

(i) media reporting states that a Liberal Party member informed the Liberal candidate for Don Valley North that he was the subject of a CSIS investigation in 2019,

(ii) this information could only be obtained from classified national security briefings, with the leak undermining the work of Canada’s intelligence agency and violating of Canada’s national security laws,

(iii) since only select individuals in the Liberal government and Liberal Party would have received this classified information from CSIS, and would have been responsible for sharing this information,

the Chair be directed to write to the Chair of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs to suggest that the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs consider this matter, including the following witnesses:

  • National Director of Liberal Party, Liberal Designate for SITE taskforce, Azam Ishmael
  • Liberal Designate for SITE taskforce, Braeden Caley
  • Senior Liberal staffer who received CSIS briefing, Matthew Lafrance
  • Liberal Campaign Director, Jeremy Broadhurst
  • Former Chief of Staff to the Minister of Public Safety, Marci Surkes
  • Former Chief of Staff to the Minister of Public Safety, Zita Astravas
  • Former Chief of Staff to the Minister of Democratic Institutions, Rob Jamieson
  • Deputy Chief of Staff to the Prime Minister, Brian Clow
  • Director of CSIS, David Vigneault
  • Commissioner of the RCMP, Michael Duheme
  • National Security and Intelligence Advisor to the Prime Minister, Nathalie Drouin
  • Other witnesses deemed relevant by the committee.

At 12:55 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Nancy Vohl
Clerk of the committee