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Minutes of Proceedings

Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates (OGGO)

44th Parliament, 1st Session

Meeting 62

Monday, April 24, 2023, 3:54 p.m. to 5:21 p.m.

Room 035-B, West Block

Televised

Presiding

Kelly McCauley, Chair (Conservative)

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Members of the Committee present

Liberal

Conservative

Bloc Québécois

Julie Vignola

NDP

Gord Johns

Acting Members present

• Nathalie Sinclair-Desgagné for Julie Vignola (Bloc Québécois)

In attendance

Library of Parliament

• Diana Ambrozas, Analyst

• Ryan van den Berg, Analyst

Federal Government Consulting Contracts Awarded to McKinsey & Company

Witnesses

As an individual

• Geneviève Bonin, Managing Director and Partner

• Michael Wernick, Jarislowsky Chair in Public Sector Management, University of Ottawa

Pursuant to Standing Orders 108(3)(c)(iii) and 108(3)(c)(ix) and the motion adopted by the committee on Wednesday, January 18, 2023, the committee resumed its study of federal government consulting contracts awarded to McKinsey & Company.

The witnesses made statements and answered questions.

At 5:04 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 115(5), it was agreed that the committee continue to sit.

Motion

Michael Barrett moved, — That the committee:

a) Invite the deputy heads from the following entities in relation to the redactions and improper translation of documents requested by the committee on January 18, 2023:

Atomic Energy of Canada Limited;
Business Development Bank of Canada;
Canada Border Services Agency;
Canada Development Investment Corporation;
Canada Post;
Canada Pension Plan Investment Board;
Department of Finance Canada;
Employment and Social Development Canada;
Export Development Canada;
Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada;
Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada;
National Defence;
Natural Resources Canada;
Office of the Veterans Ombud (Veterans Affairs Canada);
Privy Council Office;
Public Sector Pension Investment Board; and
TransMountain Corporation;

b) Invite the Office of the Law Clerk to brief the committee, in public, on the extent of the committee’s powers to call for documents;

c) Instruct the Chair to send a letter to each of the entities listed in section a) of this motion to inform them that the committee is currently considering referring this issue to the House of Commons as a possible breach of parliamentary privilege.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Parm Bains, Michael Barrett, Kelly Block, Anthony Housefather, Gord Johns, Majid Jowhari, Stephanie Kusie, Irek Kusmierczyk, Nathalie Sinclair-Desgagné, Joanne Thompson — 10;

NAYS: — 0.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 5:21 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Aimée Belmore

Clerk of the committee