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Minutes of Proceedings

Standing Committee on Transport, Infrastructure and Communities (TRAN)
42nd Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 142
Thursday, May 9, 2019, 10:58 a.m. to 12:55 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Hon. Judy A. Sgro, Chair (Liberal)

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• Jim Eglinski for Matt Jeneroux (Conservative)
• Stephen Fuhr for Gagan Sikand (Liberal)
• David de Burgh Graham for Gagan Sikand (Liberal)
• Tom Kmiec for Kelly Block (Conservative)
House of Commons
• Jean-Marie David, Procedural Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Geneviève Gosselin, Analyst
• Alexandre Lafrenière, Analyst
Main Estimates 2019-20: Votes 1 and 5 under Canadian Air Transport Security Authority, Vote 1 under Canadian Transportation Agency, Votes 1, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45 and 50 under Department of Transport, Vote 1 under Marine Atlantic Inc., Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Office of Infrastructure of Canada, Vote 1 under the Jacques-Cartier and Champlain Bridges Inc., Vote 1 under VIA Rail Canada Inc. and Vote 1 under Windsor-Detroit Bridge Authority
• Hon. Marc Garneau, P.C., M.P., Minister of Transport
Department of Transport
• Michael Keenan, Deputy Minister
• Kevin Brosseau, Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security
• Anuradha Marisetti, Assistant Deputy Minister, Programs
• André Lapointe, Chief Financial Officer
Canadian Transportation Agency
• Scott Streiner, Chair and Chief Executive Officer
• Manon Fillion, Secretary and Chief Corporate Officer
Canadian Air Transport Security Authority
• Mike Saunders, President and Chief Executive Officer
• Nancy Fitchett, Acting Vice-President, Corporate Affairs and Chief Financial Officer
Marine Atlantic Inc.
• Murray Hupman, President and Chief Executive Officer
• Shawn Leamon, Vice-President of Finance
VIA Rail Canada Inc.
• Jacques Fauteux, Director, Government and Community Relations
Pursuant to Standing Order 81(4), the Committee commenced consideration of the Main Estimates 2019-20: Votes 1 and 5 under Canadian Air Transport Security Authority, Vote 1 under Canadian Transportation Agency, Votes 1, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45 and 50 under Department of Transport, Vote 1 under Marine Atlantic Inc., Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Office of Infrastructure of Canada, Vote 1 under the Jacques-Cartier and Champlain Bridges Inc., Vote 1 under VIA Rail Canada Inc. and Vote 1 under Windsor-Detroit Bridge Authority, referred to the Committee on Thursday, April 11, 2019.

Report on Plans and Priorities 2019-20 of the Department of Transport
Department of Transport
• Michael Keenan, Deputy Minister
• Kevin Brosseau, Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security
• Anuradha Marisetti, Assistant Deputy Minister, Programs
• André Lapointe, Chief Financial Officer
Pursuant to Standing Order 81(7), the Committee commenced consideration of the Report on Plans and Priorities 2019-20 of the Department of Transport, referred to the Committee on Thursday, April 11, 2019 and on Monday, April 29, 2019.

Report on Plans and Priorities 2019-20 of the Canadian Transportation Agency
Canadian Transportation Agency
• Scott Streiner, Chair and Chief Executive Officer
• Manon Fillion, Secretary and Chief Corporate Officer
Pursuant to Standing Order 81(7), the Committee commenced consideration of the Report on Plans and Priorities 2019-20 of the Canadian Transportation Agency, referred to the Committee on Thursday, April 11, 2019.

Report on Plans and Priorities 2019-20 of the Canadian Air Transport Security Authority
Canadian Air Transport Security Authority
• Mike Saunders, President and Chief Executive Officer
• Nancy Fitchett, Acting Vice-President, Corporate Affairs and Chief Financial Officer
Pursuant to Standing Order 81(7), the Committee commenced consideration of the Report on Plans and Priorities 2019-20 of the Canadian Air Transport Security Authority, referred to the Committee on Thursday, April 11, 2019 and on Monday, April 29, 2019.

The Chair called Vote 1 under Canadian Air Transport Security Authority.

The Minister made a statement and, with Murray Hupman and Michael Keenan, answered questions.

Committee Business
The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.

Motion

Jim Eglinski moved, — That the Committee invite the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Indigenous Services to appear on the Minister’s behalf to update the Committee on the status of delivering infrastructure directly to indigenous communities, including the doubling of the Gas Tax Fund, announced in Budget 2019, and that the meeting on this study currently scheduled for Tuesday, May 28, 2019, be televised.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Robert Aubin, Kelly Block, Jim Eglinski, Ron Liepert — 4;

NAYS: Vance Badawey, Stephen Fuhr, Ken Hardie, Angelo Iacono, Churence Rogers — 5.

Main Estimates 2019-20: Votes 1 and 5 under Canadian Air Transport Security Authority, Vote 1 under Canadian Transportation Agency, Votes 1, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45 and 50 under Department of Transport, Vote 1 under Marine Atlantic Inc., Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Office of Infrastructure of Canada, Vote 1 under the Jacques-Cartier and Champlain Bridges Inc., Vote 1 under VIA Rail Canada Inc. and Vote 1 under Windsor-Detroit Bridge Authority
• Hon. Marc Garneau, P.C., M.P., Minister of Transport
Department of Transport
• Michael Keenan, Deputy Minister
• Kevin Brosseau, Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security
• Anuradha Marisetti, Assistant Deputy Minister, Programs
• André Lapointe, Chief Financial Officer
Canadian Transportation Agency
• Scott Streiner, Chair and Chief Executive Officer
• Manon Fillion, Secretary and Chief Corporate Officer
Canadian Air Transport Security Authority
• Mike Saunders, President and Chief Executive Officer
• Nancy Fitchett, Acting Vice-President, Corporate Affairs and Chief Financial Officer
Marine Atlantic Inc.
• Murray Hupman, President and Chief Executive Officer
• Shawn Leamon, Vice-President of Finance
VIA Rail Canada Inc.
• Jacques Fauteux, Director, Government and Community Relations
Pursuant to Standing Order 81(4), the Committee commenced consideration of the Main Estimates 2019-20: Votes 1 and 5 under Canadian Air Transport Security Authority, Vote 1 under Canadian Transportation Agency, Votes 1, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45 and 50 under Department of Transport, Vote 1 under Marine Atlantic Inc., Votes 1, 5 and 10 under Office of Infrastructure of Canada, Vote 1 under the Jacques-Cartier and Champlain Bridges Inc., Vote 1 under VIA Rail Canada Inc. and Vote 1 under Windsor-Detroit Bridge Authority, referred to the Committee on Thursday, April 11, 2019.

Report on Plans and Priorities 2019-20 of the Department of Transport
Department of Transport
• Michael Keenan, Deputy Minister
• Kevin Brosseau, Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security
• Anuradha Marisetti, Assistant Deputy Minister, Programs
• André Lapointe, Chief Financial Officer
Pursuant to Standing Order 81(7), the Committee commenced consideration of the Report on Plans and Priorities 2019-20 of the Department of Transport, referred to the Committee on Thursday, April 11, 2019 and on Monday, April 29, 2019.

Report on Plans and Priorities 2019-20 of the Canadian Transportation Agency
Canadian Transportation Agency
• Scott Streiner, Chair and Chief Executive Officer
• Manon Fillion, Secretary and Chief Corporate Officer
Pursuant to Standing Order 81(7), the Committee commenced consideration of the Report on Plans and Priorities 2019-20 of the Canadian Transportation Agency, referred to the Committee on Thursday, April 11, 2019.

Report on Plans and Priorities 2019-20 of the Canadian Air Transport Security Authority
Canadian Air Transport Security Authority
• Mike Saunders, President and Chief Executive Officer
• Nancy Fitchett, Acting Vice-President, Corporate Affairs and Chief Financial Officer
Pursuant to Standing Order 81(7), the Committee commenced consideration of the Report on Plans and Priorities 2019-20 of the Canadian Air Transport Security Authority, referred to the Committee on Thursday, April 11, 2019 and on Monday, April 29, 2019.

Questioning of witnesses resumed.

By unanimous consent, the Chair called Vote 5 under Canadian Air Transport Security Authority, Vote 1 under Canadian Transportation Agency, Votes 1, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45 and 50 under Department of Transport, Vote 1 under Marine Atlantic Inc. and Vote 1 under VIA Rail Canada Inc.

Votes 1 and 5 under Canadian Air Transport Security Authority, Vote 1 under Canadian Transportation Agency, Votes 1, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45 and 50 under Department of Transport, Vote 1 under Marine Atlantic Inc. and Vote 1 under VIA Rail Canada Inc. carried on division.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report Votes 1 and 5 under Canadian Air Transport Security Authority, Vote 1 under Canadian Transportation Agency, Votes 1, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45 and 50 under Department of Transport, Vote 1 under Marine Atlantic Inc. and Vote 1 under VIA Rail Canada Inc., less the amounts voted in the Interim Estimates, to the House.

At 11:56 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:03 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Committee Business
The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.

Motion

Robert Aubin moved, — That, in all cases where a Minister is invited to appear before the Committee and refuses or is unavailable, the invitation be automatically transferred to the Parliamentary Secretary in question since it is the role of a Parliamentary Secretary to represent the Minister.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Robert Aubin, Vance Badawey, Jim Eglinski, Stephen Fuhr, Ken Hardie, Angelo Iacono, Tom Kmiec, Ron Liepert, Churence Rogers — 9;

NAYS: — 0.

Temporary Use in Canada, by Canadians, of American-Plated Vehicles
Department of Finance
• Carlos Achadinha, Senior Director, Sales Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch
• Scott Winter, Director, Trade and Tariff Policy, International Trade Policy Division, International Trade and Finance
Department of Transport
• Michael DeJong, Director General, Multimodal Strategies and Program Integration
• Mario Demers, Chief, Importation and Audit Inspection
Canada Border Services Agency
• Andrew Lawrence, Acting Director General, Travellers Branch
Canadian Snowbird Association
• Evan Rachkovsky, Director, Research and Communication
As an individual
• Tim Reed
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the Committee on Tuesday, April 9, 2019, the Committee commenced its study of the temporary use in Canada, by Canadians, of American-plated vehicles.

Michael DeJong, Scott Winter, Andrew Lawrence, Evan Rachkovsky and Tim Reed, by videoconference, from Calgary, Alberta, made statements and answered questions.

At 12:55 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Marie-France Lafleur
Clerk of the Committee