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Minutes of Proceedings

45th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 2
Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 4:33 p.m. to 6:37 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Ben Carr, Chair (Liberal)

Library of Parliament
• Dana Fan, Analyst
• Sarah Lemelin-Bellerose, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

The Chair presented the First Report from the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure, which read as follows:

Your subcommittee met on Monday, September 15, 2025, to consider the business of the committee and agreed to make the following recommendations:

  1. That, the first hour of the meeting on Wednesday, September 17, 2025, be reserved for discussion of the future business of the committee.
  2. That, for the second hour on Wednesday, September 17, 2025, the Committee invite Matthew Boswell, Commissioner of Competition, Competition Bureau of Canada, to appear before it to discuss the general mandate and other related matters.
  3. That, on Monday, September 22, 2025, the committee invite the Vicky Eatrides, Chairperson and Chief Executive Officer of the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, to appear before it from 11:00 a.m.to 12:00 p.m..

Amendments

  1. It was agreed that the words "That, on Monday, September 22, 2025, the committee invite the Vicky Eatrides, Chairperson and Chief Executive Officer of the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, to appear before it from 11:00 a.m.to 12:00 p.m." be replaced by the words "That, on Wednesday, September 24, 2025, the committee invite the Vicky Eatrides, Chairperson and Chief Executive Officer of the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, to appear before it from 4:30 p.m.to 5:30 p.m.".

It was agreed, — That the First Report from the subcommittee, as amended, be concurred in.

Motion

Karim Bardeesy moved, — That pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), given the imperative for Canada’s self-reliance in national defence and security, and the significant level of investment announced, the committee study the opportunity to use a defence industrial strategy to regenerate and further develop sovereign capabilities of Canada’s industrial ecosystem and procurement opportunities for Canadian businesses. This includes areas such as aerospace, digital technologies, cyber security, vehicle and arms manufacturing, heavy industry, scientific research, advanced materials, and the bioeconomy; that the committee invite representatives from the Department of National Defence and the Department of Innovation, Science and Economic Development to appear on this study; that the committee hold a minimum of six (6) meetings on this study, to conclude no later than November 5th; and that the committee report its findings to the House.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Raquel Dancho moved, — That the motion be amended:

by adding after the words “that the committee invite” the following: “Ministers and”

by adding after the words “the Department of Innovation, Science and Economic Development to appear on this study;” the following: “that the committee conduct this study concurrently with a study on Canada’s outflow of capital investment and productivity decline for a minimum of 6 meetings each, should such a study be undertaken by this committee;”.

Debate arose thereon.

Subamendment

Ted Falk moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the word “ministers” with the words “the Minister of Finance, the Minister of Industry and the Minister of Defence for a period of not less than two hours.”.

At 4:50 p.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 4:53 p.m., the meeting resumed.

After debate, by unanimous consent, the subamendment was withdrawn.

At 5:00 p.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 5:13 p.m., the meeting resumed.

The debate on the amendment continued.

At 5:17 p.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 5:23 p.m., the meeting resumed.

By unanimous consent, the motion was withdrawn.

Motion

Raquel Dancho moved, — Given that Canada's longstanding weak productivity has been a strain on government finances and affordability; and

Given the unprecedented outflow of capital investment from Canada,

The committee undertake a study, of no fewer than five meetings, on Canada’s underlying productivity gaps, and capital outflow; the Committee invite the Minister of Finance and the Minister of Industry (on separate panels), along with industry representatives, impacted stakeholders, experts, and other relevant witnesses, to analyze the causes of these challenges and potential solutions, including how the federal government can best collaborate with the private sector to boost Canadian productivity and competitiveness; and that the Committee report its findings and recommendations to the House.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Karim Bardeesy moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “Given that Canada's longstanding weak productivity has been a strain on government finances and affordability; and Given the unprecedented outflow of capital investment from Canada,”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Karim Bardeesy and it was agreed to.

The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to.

At 5:31 p.m., the meeting was suspended.

At 5:36 p.m., the meeting resumed.

Competition Bureau Canada
• Matthew Boswell, Commissioner of Competition
• Jeanne Pratt, Senior Deputy Commissioner, Mergers and Monopolistic Practices Branch
• Anthony Durocher, Deputy Commissioner, Competition Promotion Branch
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee proceeded to a briefing on the Office of the Competition Bureau of Canada.

Matthew Boswell made a statement and, with Jeanne Pratt and Anthony Durocher, answered questions.

On motion of Gabriel Ste-Marie, it was agreed, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(3), the Committee invite the Minister of Industry, Science and Economic Development and the Minister responsible for Canada Economic Development for Quebec Regions, Mélanie Joly, to appear before the Committee for at least one hour on the topic of her mandate, including the subjects of the studies that the Committee has initiated.

At 6:37 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Miriam Burke
Clerk of the committee